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	<description>About my journey towards becoming one whole, functional person</description>
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		<title>Comment on Learning when to let go by Robert Clifton</title>
		<link>http://rapunzel.psychcentral.net/2008/04/20/learning-when-to-let-go/#comment-53</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Clifton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 14:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have found postings by this group to be helpful. I am not suggesting you join them or any thing else, simply that I have used this material to my advantage.

http://www.scientologyhandbook.org/SH9_3.HTM

Robert</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have found postings by this group to be helpful. I am not suggesting you join them or any thing else, simply that I have used this material to my advantage.</p>
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<p>Robert</p>
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		<title>Comment on Learning when to let go by rapunzel</title>
		<link>http://rapunzel.psychcentral.net/2008/04/20/learning-when-to-let-go/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>rapunzel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 14:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>((( hugs )))

Letting go is really hard.  I'm finding tons of things I know I need to let go of, and I guess I don't know how yet.  Sometimes I'm just simply holding on to the pain, nursing it along.

The voice of reason must be hiding under the deck with the goat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>((( hugs )))</p>
<p>Letting go is really hard.  I&#8217;m finding tons of things I know I need to let go of, and I guess I don&#8217;t know how yet.  Sometimes I&#8217;m just simply holding on to the pain, nursing it along.</p>
<p>The voice of reason must be hiding under the deck with the goat.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Learning when to let go by drjean</title>
		<link>http://rapunzel.psychcentral.net/2008/04/20/learning-when-to-let-go/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>drjean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 13:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ouch.  Yes, you have said you are hard-headed and need someone to give you a firm tap now and then...but that's overkill!  You're probably being too tough on yourself: I bet that goat took off quicker than the wag of it's tail!  I have a bunny who runs from loud noise (but who can blame him with ears like that?)
  Learning when to let go is a process.  I doubt we are ever educated for all circumstances, as each new venture can teach us a new level of it.  
  When it pertains to something near and dear to our hearts, yay something so strong that it IS part of us, the very idea of "letting go" isn't rational.  We tend to correlate letting go with not holding it any more. (And that does sound rational now doesn't it?)
  Once we learn how to let go of the heartache, the tempestuous feelings, the fear, and all the negative surrounding it, we realize what is left is the still, small voice of reason - and that part of us that we thought we would lose in the process. 
  It's still there.  ((hugs))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch.  Yes, you have said you are hard-headed and need someone to give you a firm tap now and then&#8230;but that&#8217;s overkill!  You&#8217;re probably being too tough on yourself: I bet that goat took off quicker than the wag of it&#8217;s tail!  I have a bunny who runs from loud noise (but who can blame him with ears like that?)<br />
  Learning when to let go is a process.  I doubt we are ever educated for all circumstances, as each new venture can teach us a new level of it.<br />
  When it pertains to something near and dear to our hearts, yay something so strong that it IS part of us, the very idea of &#8220;letting go&#8221; isn&#8217;t rational.  We tend to correlate letting go with not holding it any more. (And that does sound rational now doesn&#8217;t it?)<br />
  Once we learn how to let go of the heartache, the tempestuous feelings, the fear, and all the negative surrounding it, we realize what is left is the still, small voice of reason - and that part of us that we thought we would lose in the process.<br />
  It&#8217;s still there.  ((hugs))</p>
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		<title>Comment on Learning when to let go by rapunzel</title>
		<link>http://rapunzel.psychcentral.net/2008/04/20/learning-when-to-let-go/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>rapunzel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I miss you too, and the team.  :(  I'm severely lacking in ability to let go, still.  I keep holding on until I'm beaten into a pulp, and I still can't let go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I miss you too, and the team.  <img src='http://rapunzel.psychcentral.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;m severely lacking in ability to let go, still.  I keep holding on until I&#8217;m beaten into a pulp, and I still can&#8217;t let go.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Learning when to let go by Clyde</title>
		<link>http://rapunzel.psychcentral.net/2008/04/20/learning-when-to-let-go/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>Clyde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 04:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish with all my heart you were still part of the team, I miss you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish with all my heart you were still part of the team, I miss you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What would you like to talk about? by rapunzel</title>
		<link>http://rapunzel.psychcentral.net/2008/04/15/what-would-you-like-to-talk-about/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>rapunzel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tomi, your reply worked!  :)

I made another blog specifically for this.  Want to try it again over there too?

http://togetherinfaith.psychcentral.net/</description>
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<p>I made another blog specifically for this.  Want to try it again over there too?</p>
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		<title>Comment on What would you like to talk about? by SeptemberMorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>SeptemberMorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SeptemberMorn entered the room. 
You are in At Jesus' Feet. 
There are 1 people in the room. 
Room owner: SeptemberMorn 
Recluse1 entered the room. 
recluse1: Hi doll 
SeptemberMorn: Hey, Hon! 
Eskielover: hi....sorry about being a bit late....seems to be the story of my life...just had to send a late birthday ecard 
recluse1: just got here myself 
SeptemberMorn: no prob, Hon. 
Eskielover: I am doing find....how are you all? 
SeptemberMorn: I've been here for 20 minutes going nuts. LOL 
recluse1: i am so excited my heart is pounding! 
Eskielover: I am also very excited....it is wonderful to have wonderful Christian friends to be able to share with 
recluse1: wantto is in 21 room 
SeptemberMorn: I saw her... 
Eskielover: so excited my fingers are getting all tongue tied...lol 
SeptemberMorn: not sure if she's a believer or not, though. 
recluse1: lol eskie 
SeptemberMorn: LOL Debbie! Take your time and relax 
eskielover: The workbook is at Life Way Christian book stores. Beth Moore Living Beyond Yourself Exploring the fruit of the spirit 
recluse1: Debbie had told me about it before in pm when i asked about it 
SeptemberMorn: Thanks Debbie. Sometimes I wonder about myself. LOL 
Eskielover: the work book isn't required since I am presenting directly out of it, but it is a wonderful way to be able to do the readings &#38; see what she is saying before I do 
SeptemberMorn: Recluse, did you see a "code" when you posted? I did, copied it and it said I had it wrong. 
SeptemberMorn: Deb, it's up to you whether you want to tell others or not.  
recluse1: did that to me too at first, IDK what the prob. was 
recluse1: but was ok when i went back 
SeptemberMorn: HEY! I posted an announcement and was afraid it would be deleted. It's still there! WoooHoooooo! 
eskielover: The series is also made up with DVDs for each week that present much more than what just the week work does...I am including a lot of that too since the workbook has an area for that which I am including too 
SeptemberMorn: hmmm... i'll have to try again. 
recluse1: where did you announce at Sept.? 
SeptemberMorn: YAAAY! You're on the ball, Debbie! 
SeptemberMorn: in General, Hon. 
SeptemberMorn: Debbie, any time you want to get started, Hon. 
eskielover: I would actually love to tell others because that would be wonderful to have them be able to own the information &#38; be able to read &#38; look ahead 
SeptemberMorn: I'm saving the chat for the others. 
SeptemberMorn: whatever suits you  
eskielover: You have a group that you have been PM'ing about this? 
SeptemberMorn: yez'm. about 15 of them 
recluse1: those that answered my post in SF 
recluse1: and some others 
eskielover: We may want to change the time if it isn't good for others......I am flexible 
SeptemberMorn: and a couple more, yeah... 
SeptemberMorn: not too many answered, Deb. 
SeptemberMorn: it may take a bit to get this rolling. 
recluse1: i am so thankful for the work you have both done to get this going! 
eskielover: I am not discouraged in the least.....it will come together....you will see....God doesn't allow opportunities like this to not turn out for his good 
SeptemberMorn: I had thought about doing it but I got my wings when you suggested it. LOL 
recluse1: AMEN TO THAT! 
SeptemberMorn: It's not God that I doubt. It's me.  
recluse1: ((((Tomi)))) 
recluse1: i got bus loads of faith in ya hon 
SeptemberMorn: {{{{{{{{Recluse}}}}}}}}}}}} What can I say? 
SeptemberMorn: thanks Hon! //33 
eskielover: Do not doubt you....because God is working through you.....there is nothing to worry about 
recluse1: beautifully said eskie 
eskielover: I am having very slow fingers tonight 
SeptemberMorn: I hope so Debbie. There are people here that don't like me. 
eskielover: There are many more people who don't like God too....but that doesn't discourage him 
SeptemberMorn: that's true! 
recluse1: i'm getting all goose bumpy! 
eskielover: we will not be liked because of what we say 
SeptemberMorn: LOL 
SeptemberMorn: that's true, too 
SeptemberMorn: I have to set my eyes on the Lord! 
eskielover: we have those little geese wondering around here...lol 
recluse1: persecuted for His name sake=blessed in His name as well 
SeptemberMorn: Debbie, how do you want to get started? The song or the prayer? 
eskielover: the blessings that he give us for standing up for what he has given us to believe are in the future....not always now 
SeptemberMorn: I'm hoping for a crown.  
SeptemberMorn: but will be just as happy to be in the same place He is! 
eskielover: Beautiful stone encrusted one...... 
SeptemberMorn: LOL 
recluse1: earning one right now eskie! 
SeptemberMorn: THAT I don't dare hope. 
eskielover: we could start with the song.....just incase anyone is just running late too 
SeptemberMorn: ok 
bebop entered the room. 
SeptemberMorn: hang on, let me post the link. I don't know if you'll be able to follow it or will have to type it out yourselves. 
SeptemberMorn: BE!!! 
bebop: hey 
eskielover: hi bebop welcome 
bebop: ty Debbie 
recluse1: welcome BE! 
bebop: ty recluse 
bebop: started early huh? 
recluse1: not yet 
eskielover: we were going to start off with a song of praise.....thing are a bit slow 
SeptemberMorn: http://youtube.com/watch?v=hRT08LdEstw&#38;feature=related 
eskielover: You know me.....always early....lol 
bebop: what are we singing? 
bebop: lol 
SeptemberMorn: great is thy faithfulness 
recluse1 has left the room. 
bebop: oh ok. don't know that one 
recluse1 entered the room. 
eskielover: Tomi picked this out 
SeptemberMorn: copy the link, Bebop 
bebop: must be baptist hehe 
recluse1: i got booted 
SeptemberMorn: no denomination 
bebop: was joking hon 
SeptemberMorn: do you have the song playing?? 
bebop: yep 
recluse1: i need the link again, lost it when booted 
SeptemberMorn: alright! How about you Deb and Re? 
SeptemberMorn: http://youtube.com/watch?v=hRT08LdEstw&#38;feature=related 
recluse1: ty 
eskielover: I had a problem getting when I accessed it...something about popups 
recluse1 has left the room. 
recluse1 entered the room. 
SeptemberMorn: oh darn! You'll have to accept pop ups then 
recluse1: i just sing in my head, lol 
SeptemberMorn: LOL 
SeptemberMorn: You can listen to it after you leave this site. 
recluse1: will do 
eskielover: recluse..sounds like same problem as me 
eskielover: when I accessed the link, it took me out of chat 
SeptemberMorn: Great is The faithfulness, O God my Father 
SeptemberMorn: There is no shadow of turning with thee: 
SeptemberMorn: Thou changest not, Thy compassions, they fail not: 
SeptemberMorn: As thou hast been, Thou forever will be. 
SeptemberMorn: Great is Thy faithfulness X2 
SeptemberMorn: Morning by morning new mercies I see. 
SeptemberMorn: All I have needed Thy hand hath provided; 
SeptemberMorn: Great is Thy faithfulness, Lord, unto me! 
SeptemberMorn: You want th e second verse or is that good?  
bebop: tis good with me 
recluse1: beautiful! good job September 
eskielover: tis good with me too 
SeptemberMorn: WHEW! LOL 
SeptemberMorn: ok... thanks! hehe 
bebop: lol 
eskielover: great singing....thank you for your solo 
SeptemberMorn: ROFL!!! 
SeptemberMorn: I don't sing. I croak like a frog! 
bebop: lol 
eskielover: same here...that was why I played my flute 
recluse1: sounded good on my end, LOL 
eskielover: I didn't hear even a little croak 
SeptemberMorn: the wonders of the computer, eh? 
SeptemberMorn: LOLOL 
bebop: lol 
eskielover: yes, the computer is forgiving at times 
SeptemberMorn:  
SeptemberMorn: Debbie, the floor is yours. 
eskielover: do you want to continue with the opening prayer Tomi 
SeptemberMorn: Ok. Will do 
SeptemberMorn: Heavenly Father, We thank you so much for your Spirit moving within this small group 
SeptemberMorn: so that we might think of a better way to share You and your words in order to heal and become stronger followers of Christ 
SeptemberMorn: Thank you for each one of us here and bless us for your word says that wherever two or more 
SeptemberMorn: are gathered in His name, there You will be also 
SeptemberMorn: Heavenly Father, we as You to allow us to feel your protection 
SeptemberMorn: so that we can feel comfortable and safe 
SeptemberMorn: to open up and study Your word freely. 
SeptemberMorn: We ask you that the Holy Spirit provide us with the insight 
SeptemberMorn: for understanding God's words and seeing how to apply it 
SeptemberMorn: to our daily lives so that our faith will be strengthened 
SeptemberMorn: through the study of His Word and that it will continue to make us stronger in our faith daily. 
SeptemberMorn: We pray that you give us the strength as a group to be a good Christian support 
SeptemberMorn: to each other and show the Christian love and kindness that You have for us 
SeptemberMorn: to provide the support to each other what we know is needed as Christians. 
SeptemberMorn: I want to pray especially that the Bible study that we have chose 
SeptemberMorn: and that You have directed us to choose, which is the Fruit of the Spirit 
SeptemberMorn: Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, 
SeptemberMorn: faithfulness, gentleness and self-control expand in us so that it goes out 
SeptemberMorn: to a hungry world. 
SeptemberMorn: We ask you to provide the words that will give us the healing and strength that we need at this point in time 
SeptemberMorn: and that the Holy Spirit will provide the necessary healing that You alone know that we need so that we can go on 
SeptemberMorn: from the past hurts, learn from those experiences without dwelling on them 
SeptemberMorn: in the future so that we can allow the Fruit of the Spirit to fill our lives 
SeptemberMorn: and we can become the Christians that you want from Your children. 
SeptemberMorn: We ask this in your son's holy name 
SeptemberMorn: Amen 
bebop: Amen 
recluse1: Amen! 
eskielover: amen 
bebop: brb 
eskielover: thank you Tomi....that was wonderful 
recluse1: yes, ty 
SeptemberMorn: thank YOU, Deb.  
bebop: back. I will be in and out for a bit but here 
eskielover: I know that we are all going to be blessed ....what we ask in his name...he give 
eskielover: that' ok....no problem 
bebop: ty 
recluse1: Are we ready ladies? 
eskielover: I want to start off by letting bebop also know there is a workbook that is available if interested....it was the one that the formal bible study used along with DV 
bebop: yep 
bebop: online? 
Court_Knee entered the room. 
SeptemberMorn: No, she'll tell you. 
bebop: ok 
eskielover: It is purchased through Lifeway Christian bookstore 
SeptemberMorn: Hi, Court_Knee! 
recluse1: welcome court 
Court_Knee: hio 
eskielover: welcom court_knee 
Court_Knee: thanks 
SeptemberMorn: Court, Debbie is leading us in a Bible study on the Fruit of the Spirit.  
eskielover: It is by Beth Moore.....called Living Beyond Yourself.....Exploring the fruit of the spirit 
Court_Knee: the fruit of the spirit not a strawberry! 
Court_Knee: (its a dong) 
Court_Knee: *song 
bebop tells you: errrrrrrrrr 
SeptemberMorn: LOL No, not a strawberry 
recluse1: Much more wonderful than that! 
recluse1: //0 
eskielover: there are many fruits that are our fav's....but these are the ones that the Holy Spirit give us for living our daily lives 
eskielover: I am going directly out of the workbook &#38; writing the bible versus if needed just incase a bible is missing....lol 
eskielover: Galatians 5:22-23 
eskielover: But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness 
Court_Knee: yup! 
Court_Knee: i know a song 
Court_Knee: about them 
eskielover: faithfulness, gentleness, &#38; self-control. Against such things there is no law 
Court_Knee: the fruit of the spirits not a (fruit) the fruit of the spirits not a (fruit) so if you wanna be a (fruit) you might as well hear it, you can't be a fruit of the spirit cause the fruits are love joy ppeace patience kindness goodness gentleness faithfulness and self control (repeat) 
SeptemberMorn: I can already tell that I have to make some changes. 
recluse1: I do as well, a lot of work yet to be done 
eskielover: the focus of the bible study is to learn about, grow in &#38; experience the work of the Holy Spirit in our life 
eskielover: this is a growing process.....we will learn as we go &#38; adapt...that is the wonderful thing about God....he works the same way with us 
recluse1: thank God 
Court_Knee: do you like the song lol 
eskielover: Tonight I am mostly going to get into the Holy Spirit in our life because that is where the fruit come from 
SeptemberMorn: I do, Court. I'd like to hear it, though. 
Court_Knee: its really fun to sing 
Court_Knee: we make the shape of the fruits as we sing it 
Court_Knee: i learned it at camp 
eskielover: Court.....love the song.....we started with a song &#38; we can sing with you afterwards....ok? 
recluse1: let’s see what we can learn from eskie for now//0 
SeptemberMorn: Debbie, it's so exciting to know that the Spirit is working in us.  
Court_Knee: ok sorrt 
Court_Knee: sorry 
recluse1: ((((((court))))))) 
eskielover: John 14 is explaining about the trinity....don't know if you have the bible ....to turn to it 
eskielover: Jesus is explaining to the disciples the picture of how he is to die to prepare a place for us in Heaven 
recluse1: got it 
SeptemberMorn: for those that don't have a Bible, you can go to BibleGateway.com and type in the Scripture. 
eskielover: vs 16 - 17 tells about how he will give you another Counselor 
eskielover: to be with you forever...the Spirit of truth. 
eskielover: the world cannot accept him because it neither sees him nor knows him 
eskielover: but you know him, for he lives with you &#38; will be in you 
eskielover: I think it's beautiful how it goes on 
eskielover: in 25 &#38; 26 
recluse1: yes, me too 
kelllie entered the room. 
eskielover: That Christ has spoken while still with us, but the counselor, the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send in my name 
eskielover: Will teach you all things &#38; will remind you of everything I have said to you. 
SeptemberMorn: Welcome Kelllie. We're having a Bible study. You're welcome to stay.  
recluse1: welcome kelllie 
eskielover: The Spirit give us so much insight as to the meaning 
kelllie: thanks 
eskielover: yes. welcome kelllie 
Court_Knee: kellie! 
eskielover: we are introducing the fruit of the Spirit bible study....welcome 
_Sky entered the room. 
eskielover: hi Sky....welcome 
recluse1: hi sky 
_Sky has left the room. 
eskielover: The foundational truth that 
_Sky entered the room. 
_Sky: am I not welcomed? 
bebop: hi 
eskielover: you are welcome 
recluse1: yes welcome 
_Sky: I prefer to leave on my own then. Yall tc 
_Sky has left the room. 
recluse1: Huh? 
recluse1: go ahead eskie... 
eskielover: Christ in us only guarantees life in heaven 
recluse1: amen' 
Court_Knee: what the heck 
eskielover: but Christ in us grants the invitation to live beyond ourselves on earth....it's not all about heaven....but we need to be able to have a wonderful life here 
eskielover: Psalm 27:13 
eskielover: says I am still confident of this 
eskielover: I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living 
eskielover: also John 10:10 
eskielover: .....I have come that they may have life &#38; have it to the full 
SeptemberMorn: KJV says "in abundance" I like that 
eskielover: What God give us through Christ &#38; the Holy Spirit is the ability to LIVE Beyond YOURSELF 
eskielover: Living....the importance of this study is how relevant it is in our lives 
recluse1: so excited to learn more about it 
eskielover: we need to have relevance in our lives now 
eskielover: To be filled with the Holy Spirit fills us with the fruit of the Spirit 
eskielover: that doesn't just change our life....IT CHANGES OUR DAY 
SeptemberMorn: It really does! 
eskielover: it sure does doesn't it 
eskielover: thinking about our purpose in life.....my purpose is beyond me 
eskielover: 2 Cor 5:5 
eskielover: Now it is God who has made us for this very purpose 
SeptemberMorn: WOW! That hits home! 
bebop: I think we all spend our lives wondering what our purpose is. 
eskielover: &#38; has given us the Spirit as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come 
eskielover: I know I do 
eskielover: The spirit helps us with that 
eskielover: My circumstances are often beyond me 
eskielover: 2 Cor 1:8-9 
eskielover: We don't want you to be uninformed about the hardships 
eskielover: we suffered under great pressure far beyond our ability 
eskielover: to endure so that we despaired even of life 
eskielover: (this was when they were preaching about Christ) 
eskielover: But this happened that we might not rely on ourselves 
eskielover: but on God, who raises the dead 
eskielover: I think for me, the hardships that God gives me are at the time when I am thinking it's all about me 
recluse1: i agree 
SeptemberMorn: I can relate to that! 
recluse1: it's when I take my eyes from Him that I fall 
SeptemberMorn: exactly! and boy are my knees bruised! 
eskielover: Then there are the daily demands that are beyond me 
eskielover: Colossians 1:29 
eskielover: To this end I labor, struggling with all his energy which so powerfully works in me 
eskielover: Everything that is part of our life requires so much that without God, we can't possibly do what is needed 
eskielover: Then comes YOURSELF....the powerful misery-maker 
eskielover: we tend to be self -absorbed &#38; living inside of ourselves with all the demands on us 
SeptemberMorn: OUCH It's true. 
recluse1: yes, i guess we do 
eskielover: Mat 23:25 is beautiful 
eskielover: gives hope but takes work....lol 
eskielover: Woe to you.......clean the outside of the cup &#38; dish but inside is full of greed &#38; self-indulgence 
eskielover: clean the inside &#38; then the outside will be clean 
SeptemberMorn: You're talking about a couple people I know, Deb  
recluse1: that applies to everything in our lives...I like that 
eskielover: I know it's amazing when I come to some of that inside stuff, the outside shapes up..... 
eskielover: yes, it does apply to everything 
eskielover: With the Spirit, we become free at last 
eskielover: our Goal: 
eskielover: 1) find genuine freedom 
eskielover: 2) freedom that only comes through a life filled with the Holy Spirit 
eskielover: It is that lie that displays the character traits called the fruit of the Spirit 
eskielover: (that's where this is all heading to is that study) 
eskielover: 3) discover that the character of Jesus can be a reality in the life 
eskielover: if an EVERYDAY believer 
SeptemberMorn: Debbie may I interrupt? 
eskielover: sure 
SeptemberMorn: you typed "it is t hat lie" did you mean life?  
eskielover: I'm looking 
SeptemberMorn: under #2 
eskielover: yes, It's that life 
SeptemberMorn: good! ok.  
eskielover: not a good typo there...oops 
SeptemberMorn: LOL I understand "typo"  
eskielover: not a Freudian slip by any means 
SeptemberMorn: LOL 
eskielover: 4) Understanding the fruit of the Spirit &#38; issues involved in living in the Spirit 
eskielover: 5)...the tough one 
SeptemberMorn: Ut Oh! 
eskielover: let Christ have access to those places inside us 
SeptemberMorn: Oh...  
eskielover: we have problems with &#38; need changing &#38; give him permission to come inside 
eskielover: 6)....our key as Christians.....to resist Satan’s hard fight &#38; attempts to discourage us 
SeptemberMorn: THAT is the tough one for me. 
eskielover: These are all the challenges ahead 
recluse1: easy to read...harder to apply 
eskielover: When I went through this Bible study starting in Feb....I was really at a place where this was needed 
recluse1: i am at that place myself right now. so this is an answered prayer for me 
SeptemberMorn: I feel I need it now. Too much of what you have said ... IDK... rings a bell or something. 
recluse1: I thank God for bringing us all together for this! 
eskielover: I know for me....this is wonderful because I didn't get enough out of it he first time 
SeptemberMorn: He had a purpose when the SF got changed 
eskielover: I know that God has placed this here for a definite reason 
Court_Knee has left the room. 
recluse1: took me a while...but yes, i see that now 
SeptemberMorn: took me a while, too. 
eskielover: I think that also......it seems that he works that way......things change....then he provides the seeds of ideas to make the changes he really wants 
SeptemberMorn: something (I wonder who??) kept nudging me onward, though. 
recluse1: Holy Spirit at work...... 
eskielover: the Spirit.....is a good nudger 
SeptemberMorn: through you, Recluse.  
recluse1: Awww 
eskielover: That is the beauty of the Spirit....he knows all the players &#38; puts the pieces together 
SeptemberMorn: I had the same idea, but hadn't done anything with it until you posted 
SeptemberMorn: Isn't it wonderful?? 
recluse1: yes, wonderful! 
SeptemberMorn: Deb, you had been sharing about this Bible study  
eskielover: Yes, it was tough because I was sharing then I couldn't 
bebop is currently away. 
eskielover: I couldn't keep in inside 
recluse1: but you shared enough to inspire us with it! 
SeptemberMorn: now we know why 
recluse1: Amen 
SeptemberMorn: that's for sure! 
eskielover: But it wasn't silenced thanks to you all 
SeptemberMorn: Thank God you couldn't keep it inside. LOL 
recluse1: thank you for being open enough to be His vessel! 
SeptemberMorn: Do we have any prayer requests? 
SeptemberMorn: I do. 
eskielover: The timing was good because I didn't know what was going on, so I was able to say 
eskielover: I think this is a good time for prayer requests. 
SeptemberMorn: God's perfect timing! 
recluse1: YAY! 
SeptemberMorn: I'm going to be very open, okay? 
recluse1: ok 
eskielover: ok 
SeptemberMorn: Sky and I got into it pretty heavy when she came back from vacation to the point that I had to put her on ignore. You saw what happened tonight. I'm sure she feels that I kicked her out. I DID NOT! She must have gotten booted. 
SeptemberMorn: I think she needs this study and I think s he needs our prayers. 
recluse1: i will pray 
eskielover: I saw she was welcomed by 2 of us before she left....don't think she saw our welcome 
SeptemberMorn: One more request. My hubby needs our prayers, too. He's too busy living life inside himself.  
eskielover: I will invite her back 
recluse1: got it sept 
eskielover: I too have a similar prayer request 
SeptemberMorn: ty, Debbie 
recluse1: ok 
SeptemberMorn: ok 
eskielover: about my husband 
eskielover: He has been living his life totally inside of himself &#38; needs to come to terms with allowing the Spirit into his life 
SeptemberMorn: understood 
recluse1: making a list.. 
SeptemberMorn: we are married to similar men, Debbie 
SeptemberMorn: Recluse, I'm sending out this chat, Hon. 
recluse1: ok 
recluse1: i also have a request please.. 
SeptemberMorn: ok 
eskielover: ok 
recluse1: i would like for you to pray for my family and I. We are in the midst of a great struggle spiritually and financially. please pray for us to find the answers we seek. 
SeptemberMorn: you've got it, Hon. HUGS 
eskielover: yes...you have my prayers 
recluse1: (((((((hugs to all))))))) this has been wonderful. thank you all for being here! 
SeptemberMorn:  
SeptemberMorn: thank God for us. Is that kosher? LOL 
eskielover: This has been wonderful....if there are any suggestions I would love to hear...it's hard doing bible study this way 
SeptemberMorn: thank God for this group. There! 
recluse1: i think you did wonderful eskie 
recluse1: i was wondering how this would work. 
SeptemberMorn: Eskie, you might ask Sky if she managed to do macros w hen she did her chats. 
eskielover: God is blessing us together....we need each others support &#38; this is wonderful to have it here 
recluse1: but you did very well 
SeptemberMorn: Yes, you did! 
SeptemberMorn: but I understand how hard it is just from doing the prayer. LOL 
eskielover: I will ask her about that 
SeptemberMorn: Debbie, if you want to dismiss us with a blessing? I didn't find it or get it done.  
recluse1: i will pm her also so she knows she is welcome here, ok. 
eskielover: I only got about 1/2 through what was for tonight 
eskielover: no we haven't done that yet 
SeptemberMorn: yes, do, Recluse. 
SeptemberMorn: LOL I can imagine, Debbie. 
eskielover: we can close with the blessing &#38; then we can chat 
SeptemberMorn: As long as Sky doesn't try to correct or argue with Debbie, she'll be fine. 
SeptemberMorn: Ok  
recluse1: it will be fine 
SeptemberMorn: Debbie, if you will? 
eskielover: Sure: 
eskielover: The Lord Bless you &#38; keep you 
eskielover: The Lord Make his face to shine upon you &#38; give you peace 
eskielover: May we go in peace through this week 
SeptemberMorn: Amen 
eskielover: &#38; be blessed through out our daily lives 
eskielover: amen 
SeptemberMorn: thank you Debbie. //33 
recluse1: amen and amen 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SeptemberMorn entered the room.<br />
You are in At Jesus&#8217; Feet.<br />
There are 1 people in the room.<br />
Room owner: SeptemberMorn<br />
Recluse1 entered the room.<br />
recluse1: Hi doll<br />
SeptemberMorn: Hey, Hon!<br />
Eskielover: hi&#8230;.sorry about being a bit late&#8230;.seems to be the story of my life&#8230;just had to send a late birthday ecard<br />
recluse1: just got here myself<br />
SeptemberMorn: no prob, Hon.<br />
Eskielover: I am doing find&#8230;.how are you all?<br />
SeptemberMorn: I&#8217;ve been here for 20 minutes going nuts. LOL<br />
recluse1: i am so excited my heart is pounding!<br />
Eskielover: I am also very excited&#8230;.it is wonderful to have wonderful Christian friends to be able to share with<br />
recluse1: wantto is in 21 room<br />
SeptemberMorn: I saw her&#8230;<br />
Eskielover: so excited my fingers are getting all tongue tied&#8230;lol<br />
SeptemberMorn: not sure if she&#8217;s a believer or not, though.<br />
recluse1: lol eskie<br />
SeptemberMorn: LOL Debbie! Take your time and relax<br />
eskielover: The workbook is at Life Way Christian book stores. Beth Moore Living Beyond Yourself Exploring the fruit of the spirit<br />
recluse1: Debbie had told me about it before in pm when i asked about it<br />
SeptemberMorn: Thanks Debbie. Sometimes I wonder about myself. LOL<br />
Eskielover: the work book isn&#8217;t required since I am presenting directly out of it, but it is a wonderful way to be able to do the readings &amp; see what she is saying before I do<br />
SeptemberMorn: Recluse, did you see a &#8220;code&#8221; when you posted? I did, copied it and it said I had it wrong.<br />
SeptemberMorn: Deb, it&#8217;s up to you whether you want to tell others or not.<br />
recluse1: did that to me too at first, IDK what the prob. was<br />
recluse1: but was ok when i went back<br />
SeptemberMorn: HEY! I posted an announcement and was afraid it would be deleted. It&#8217;s still there! WoooHoooooo!<br />
eskielover: The series is also made up with DVDs for each week that present much more than what just the week work does&#8230;I am including a lot of that too since the workbook has an area for that which I am including too<br />
SeptemberMorn: hmmm&#8230; i&#8217;ll have to try again.<br />
recluse1: where did you announce at Sept.?<br />
SeptemberMorn: YAAAY! You&#8217;re on the ball, Debbie!<br />
SeptemberMorn: in General, Hon.<br />
SeptemberMorn: Debbie, any time you want to get started, Hon.<br />
eskielover: I would actually love to tell others because that would be wonderful to have them be able to own the information &amp; be able to read &amp; look ahead<br />
SeptemberMorn: I&#8217;m saving the chat for the others.<br />
SeptemberMorn: whatever suits you<br />
eskielover: You have a group that you have been PM&#8217;ing about this?<br />
SeptemberMorn: yez&#8217;m. about 15 of them<br />
recluse1: those that answered my post in SF<br />
recluse1: and some others<br />
eskielover: We may want to change the time if it isn&#8217;t good for others&#8230;&#8230;I am flexible<br />
SeptemberMorn: and a couple more, yeah&#8230;<br />
SeptemberMorn: not too many answered, Deb.<br />
SeptemberMorn: it may take a bit to get this rolling.<br />
recluse1: i am so thankful for the work you have both done to get this going!<br />
eskielover: I am not discouraged in the least&#8230;..it will come together&#8230;.you will see&#8230;.God doesn&#8217;t allow opportunities like this to not turn out for his good<br />
SeptemberMorn: I had thought about doing it but I got my wings when you suggested it. LOL<br />
recluse1: AMEN TO THAT!<br />
SeptemberMorn: It&#8217;s not God that I doubt. It&#8217;s me.<br />
recluse1: ((((Tomi))))<br />
recluse1: i got bus loads of faith in ya hon<br />
SeptemberMorn: {{{{{{{{Recluse}}}}}}}}}}}} What can I say?<br />
SeptemberMorn: thanks Hon! //33<br />
eskielover: Do not doubt you&#8230;.because God is working through you&#8230;..there is nothing to worry about<br />
recluse1: beautifully said eskie<br />
eskielover: I am having very slow fingers tonight<br />
SeptemberMorn: I hope so Debbie. There are people here that don&#8217;t like me.<br />
eskielover: There are many more people who don&#8217;t like God too&#8230;.but that doesn&#8217;t discourage him<br />
SeptemberMorn: that&#8217;s true!<br />
recluse1: i&#8217;m getting all goose bumpy!<br />
eskielover: we will not be liked because of what we say<br />
SeptemberMorn: LOL<br />
SeptemberMorn: that&#8217;s true, too<br />
SeptemberMorn: I have to set my eyes on the Lord!<br />
eskielover: we have those little geese wondering around here&#8230;lol<br />
recluse1: persecuted for His name sake=blessed in His name as well<br />
SeptemberMorn: Debbie, how do you want to get started? The song or the prayer?<br />
eskielover: the blessings that he give us for standing up for what he has given us to believe are in the future&#8230;.not always now<br />
SeptemberMorn: I&#8217;m hoping for a crown.<br />
SeptemberMorn: but will be just as happy to be in the same place He is!<br />
eskielover: Beautiful stone encrusted one&#8230;&#8230;<br />
SeptemberMorn: LOL<br />
recluse1: earning one right now eskie!<br />
SeptemberMorn: THAT I don&#8217;t dare hope.<br />
eskielover: we could start with the song&#8230;..just incase anyone is just running late too<br />
SeptemberMorn: ok<br />
bebop entered the room.<br />
SeptemberMorn: hang on, let me post the link. I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;ll be able to follow it or will have to type it out yourselves.<br />
SeptemberMorn: BE!!!<br />
bebop: hey<br />
eskielover: hi bebop welcome<br />
bebop: ty Debbie<br />
recluse1: welcome BE!<br />
bebop: ty recluse<br />
bebop: started early huh?<br />
recluse1: not yet<br />
eskielover: we were going to start off with a song of praise&#8230;..thing are a bit slow<br />
SeptemberMorn: <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=hRT08LdEstw&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=hRT08LdEstw&amp;feature=related</a><br />
eskielover: You know me&#8230;..always early&#8230;.lol<br />
bebop: what are we singing?<br />
bebop: lol<br />
SeptemberMorn: great is thy faithfulness<br />
recluse1 has left the room.<br />
bebop: oh ok. don&#8217;t know that one<br />
recluse1 entered the room.<br />
eskielover: Tomi picked this out<br />
SeptemberMorn: copy the link, Bebop<br />
bebop: must be baptist hehe<br />
recluse1: i got booted<br />
SeptemberMorn: no denomination<br />
bebop: was joking hon<br />
SeptemberMorn: do you have the song playing??<br />
bebop: yep<br />
recluse1: i need the link again, lost it when booted<br />
SeptemberMorn: alright! How about you Deb and Re?<br />
SeptemberMorn: <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=hRT08LdEstw&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=hRT08LdEstw&amp;feature=related</a><br />
recluse1: ty<br />
eskielover: I had a problem getting when I accessed it&#8230;something about popups<br />
recluse1 has left the room.<br />
recluse1 entered the room.<br />
SeptemberMorn: oh darn! You&#8217;ll have to accept pop ups then<br />
recluse1: i just sing in my head, lol<br />
SeptemberMorn: LOL<br />
SeptemberMorn: You can listen to it after you leave this site.<br />
recluse1: will do<br />
eskielover: recluse..sounds like same problem as me<br />
eskielover: when I accessed the link, it took me out of chat<br />
SeptemberMorn: Great is The faithfulness, O God my Father<br />
SeptemberMorn: There is no shadow of turning with thee:<br />
SeptemberMorn: Thou changest not, Thy compassions, they fail not:<br />
SeptemberMorn: As thou hast been, Thou forever will be.<br />
SeptemberMorn: Great is Thy faithfulness X2<br />
SeptemberMorn: Morning by morning new mercies I see.<br />
SeptemberMorn: All I have needed Thy hand hath provided;<br />
SeptemberMorn: Great is Thy faithfulness, Lord, unto me!<br />
SeptemberMorn: You want th e second verse or is that good?<br />
bebop: tis good with me<br />
recluse1: beautiful! good job September<br />
eskielover: tis good with me too<br />
SeptemberMorn: WHEW! LOL<br />
SeptemberMorn: ok&#8230; thanks! hehe<br />
bebop: lol<br />
eskielover: great singing&#8230;.thank you for your solo<br />
SeptemberMorn: ROFL!!!<br />
SeptemberMorn: I don&#8217;t sing. I croak like a frog!<br />
bebop: lol<br />
eskielover: same here&#8230;that was why I played my flute<br />
recluse1: sounded good on my end, LOL<br />
eskielover: I didn&#8217;t hear even a little croak<br />
SeptemberMorn: the wonders of the computer, eh?<br />
SeptemberMorn: LOLOL<br />
bebop: lol<br />
eskielover: yes, the computer is forgiving at times<br />
SeptemberMorn:<br />
SeptemberMorn: Debbie, the floor is yours.<br />
eskielover: do you want to continue with the opening prayer Tomi<br />
SeptemberMorn: Ok. Will do<br />
SeptemberMorn: Heavenly Father, We thank you so much for your Spirit moving within this small group<br />
SeptemberMorn: so that we might think of a better way to share You and your words in order to heal and become stronger followers of Christ<br />
SeptemberMorn: Thank you for each one of us here and bless us for your word says that wherever two or more<br />
SeptemberMorn: are gathered in His name, there You will be also<br />
SeptemberMorn: Heavenly Father, we as You to allow us to feel your protection<br />
SeptemberMorn: so that we can feel comfortable and safe<br />
SeptemberMorn: to open up and study Your word freely.<br />
SeptemberMorn: We ask you that the Holy Spirit provide us with the insight<br />
SeptemberMorn: for understanding God&#8217;s words and seeing how to apply it<br />
SeptemberMorn: to our daily lives so that our faith will be strengthened<br />
SeptemberMorn: through the study of His Word and that it will continue to make us stronger in our faith daily.<br />
SeptemberMorn: We pray that you give us the strength as a group to be a good Christian support<br />
SeptemberMorn: to each other and show the Christian love and kindness that You have for us<br />
SeptemberMorn: to provide the support to each other what we know is needed as Christians.<br />
SeptemberMorn: I want to pray especially that the Bible study that we have chose<br />
SeptemberMorn: and that You have directed us to choose, which is the Fruit of the Spirit<br />
SeptemberMorn: Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness,<br />
SeptemberMorn: faithfulness, gentleness and self-control expand in us so that it goes out<br />
SeptemberMorn: to a hungry world.<br />
SeptemberMorn: We ask you to provide the words that will give us the healing and strength that we need at this point in time<br />
SeptemberMorn: and that the Holy Spirit will provide the necessary healing that You alone know that we need so that we can go on<br />
SeptemberMorn: from the past hurts, learn from those experiences without dwelling on them<br />
SeptemberMorn: in the future so that we can allow the Fruit of the Spirit to fill our lives<br />
SeptemberMorn: and we can become the Christians that you want from Your children.<br />
SeptemberMorn: We ask this in your son&#8217;s holy name<br />
SeptemberMorn: Amen<br />
bebop: Amen<br />
recluse1: Amen!<br />
eskielover: amen<br />
bebop: brb<br />
eskielover: thank you Tomi&#8230;.that was wonderful<br />
recluse1: yes, ty<br />
SeptemberMorn: thank YOU, Deb.<br />
bebop: back. I will be in and out for a bit but here<br />
eskielover: I know that we are all going to be blessed &#8230;.what we ask in his name&#8230;he give<br />
eskielover: that&#8217; ok&#8230;.no problem<br />
bebop: ty<br />
recluse1: Are we ready ladies?<br />
eskielover: I want to start off by letting bebop also know there is a workbook that is available if interested&#8230;.it was the one that the formal bible study used along with DV<br />
bebop: yep<br />
bebop: online?<br />
Court_Knee entered the room.<br />
SeptemberMorn: No, she&#8217;ll tell you.<br />
bebop: ok<br />
eskielover: It is purchased through Lifeway Christian bookstore<br />
SeptemberMorn: Hi, Court_Knee!<br />
recluse1: welcome court<br />
Court_Knee: hio<br />
eskielover: welcom court_knee<br />
Court_Knee: thanks<br />
SeptemberMorn: Court, Debbie is leading us in a Bible study on the Fruit of the Spirit.<br />
eskielover: It is by Beth Moore&#8230;..called Living Beyond Yourself&#8230;..Exploring the fruit of the spirit<br />
Court_Knee: the fruit of the spirit not a strawberry!<br />
Court_Knee: (its a dong)<br />
Court_Knee: *song<br />
bebop tells you: errrrrrrrrr<br />
SeptemberMorn: LOL No, not a strawberry<br />
recluse1: Much more wonderful than that!<br />
recluse1: //0<br />
eskielover: there are many fruits that are our fav&#8217;s&#8230;.but these are the ones that the Holy Spirit give us for living our daily lives<br />
eskielover: I am going directly out of the workbook &amp; writing the bible versus if needed just incase a bible is missing&#8230;.lol<br />
eskielover: Galatians 5:22-23<br />
eskielover: But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness<br />
Court_Knee: yup!<br />
Court_Knee: i know a song<br />
Court_Knee: about them<br />
eskielover: faithfulness, gentleness, &amp; self-control. Against such things there is no law<br />
Court_Knee: the fruit of the spirits not a (fruit) the fruit of the spirits not a (fruit) so if you wanna be a (fruit) you might as well hear it, you can&#8217;t be a fruit of the spirit cause the fruits are love joy ppeace patience kindness goodness gentleness faithfulness and self control (repeat)<br />
SeptemberMorn: I can already tell that I have to make some changes.<br />
recluse1: I do as well, a lot of work yet to be done<br />
eskielover: the focus of the bible study is to learn about, grow in &amp; experience the work of the Holy Spirit in our life<br />
eskielover: this is a growing process&#8230;..we will learn as we go &amp; adapt&#8230;that is the wonderful thing about God&#8230;.he works the same way with us<br />
recluse1: thank God<br />
Court_Knee: do you like the song lol<br />
eskielover: Tonight I am mostly going to get into the Holy Spirit in our life because that is where the fruit come from<br />
SeptemberMorn: I do, Court. I&#8217;d like to hear it, though.<br />
Court_Knee: its really fun to sing<br />
Court_Knee: we make the shape of the fruits as we sing it<br />
Court_Knee: i learned it at camp<br />
eskielover: Court&#8230;..love the song&#8230;..we started with a song &amp; we can sing with you afterwards&#8230;.ok?<br />
recluse1: let’s see what we can learn from eskie for now//0<br />
SeptemberMorn: Debbie, it&#8217;s so exciting to know that the Spirit is working in us.<br />
Court_Knee: ok sorrt<br />
Court_Knee: sorry<br />
recluse1: ((((((court)))))))<br />
eskielover: John 14 is explaining about the trinity&#8230;.don&#8217;t know if you have the bible &#8230;.to turn to it<br />
eskielover: Jesus is explaining to the disciples the picture of how he is to die to prepare a place for us in Heaven<br />
recluse1: got it<br />
SeptemberMorn: for those that don&#8217;t have a Bible, you can go to BibleGateway.com and type in the Scripture.<br />
eskielover: vs 16 - 17 tells about how he will give you another Counselor<br />
eskielover: to be with you forever&#8230;the Spirit of truth.<br />
eskielover: the world cannot accept him because it neither sees him nor knows him<br />
eskielover: but you know him, for he lives with you &amp; will be in you<br />
eskielover: I think it&#8217;s beautiful how it goes on<br />
eskielover: in 25 &amp; 26<br />
recluse1: yes, me too<br />
kelllie entered the room.<br />
eskielover: That Christ has spoken while still with us, but the counselor, the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send in my name<br />
eskielover: Will teach you all things &amp; will remind you of everything I have said to you.<br />
SeptemberMorn: Welcome Kelllie. We&#8217;re having a Bible study. You&#8217;re welcome to stay.<br />
recluse1: welcome kelllie<br />
eskielover: The Spirit give us so much insight as to the meaning<br />
kelllie: thanks<br />
eskielover: yes. welcome kelllie<br />
Court_Knee: kellie!<br />
eskielover: we are introducing the fruit of the Spirit bible study&#8230;.welcome<br />
_Sky entered the room.<br />
eskielover: hi Sky&#8230;.welcome<br />
recluse1: hi sky<br />
_Sky has left the room.<br />
eskielover: The foundational truth that<br />
_Sky entered the room.<br />
_Sky: am I not welcomed?<br />
bebop: hi<br />
eskielover: you are welcome<br />
recluse1: yes welcome<br />
_Sky: I prefer to leave on my own then. Yall tc<br />
_Sky has left the room.<br />
recluse1: Huh?<br />
recluse1: go ahead eskie&#8230;<br />
eskielover: Christ in us only guarantees life in heaven<br />
recluse1: amen&#8217;<br />
Court_Knee: what the heck<br />
eskielover: but Christ in us grants the invitation to live beyond ourselves on earth&#8230;.it&#8217;s not all about heaven&#8230;.but we need to be able to have a wonderful life here<br />
eskielover: Psalm 27:13<br />
eskielover: says I am still confident of this<br />
eskielover: I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living<br />
eskielover: also John 10:10<br />
eskielover: &#8230;..I have come that they may have life &amp; have it to the full<br />
SeptemberMorn: KJV says &#8220;in abundance&#8221; I like that<br />
eskielover: What God give us through Christ &amp; the Holy Spirit is the ability to LIVE Beyond YOURSELF<br />
eskielover: Living&#8230;.the importance of this study is how relevant it is in our lives<br />
recluse1: so excited to learn more about it<br />
eskielover: we need to have relevance in our lives now<br />
eskielover: To be filled with the Holy Spirit fills us with the fruit of the Spirit<br />
eskielover: that doesn&#8217;t just change our life&#8230;.IT CHANGES OUR DAY<br />
SeptemberMorn: It really does!<br />
eskielover: it sure does doesn&#8217;t it<br />
eskielover: thinking about our purpose in life&#8230;..my purpose is beyond me<br />
eskielover: 2 Cor 5:5<br />
eskielover: Now it is God who has made us for this very purpose<br />
SeptemberMorn: WOW! That hits home!<br />
bebop: I think we all spend our lives wondering what our purpose is.<br />
eskielover: &amp; has given us the Spirit as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come<br />
eskielover: I know I do<br />
eskielover: The spirit helps us with that<br />
eskielover: My circumstances are often beyond me<br />
eskielover: 2 Cor 1:8-9<br />
eskielover: We don&#8217;t want you to be uninformed about the hardships<br />
eskielover: we suffered under great pressure far beyond our ability<br />
eskielover: to endure so that we despaired even of life<br />
eskielover: (this was when they were preaching about Christ)<br />
eskielover: But this happened that we might not rely on ourselves<br />
eskielover: but on God, who raises the dead<br />
eskielover: I think for me, the hardships that God gives me are at the time when I am thinking it&#8217;s all about me<br />
recluse1: i agree<br />
SeptemberMorn: I can relate to that!<br />
recluse1: it&#8217;s when I take my eyes from Him that I fall<br />
SeptemberMorn: exactly! and boy are my knees bruised!<br />
eskielover: Then there are the daily demands that are beyond me<br />
eskielover: Colossians 1:29<br />
eskielover: To this end I labor, struggling with all his energy which so powerfully works in me<br />
eskielover: Everything that is part of our life requires so much that without God, we can&#8217;t possibly do what is needed<br />
eskielover: Then comes YOURSELF&#8230;.the powerful misery-maker<br />
eskielover: we tend to be self -absorbed &amp; living inside of ourselves with all the demands on us<br />
SeptemberMorn: OUCH It&#8217;s true.<br />
recluse1: yes, i guess we do<br />
eskielover: Mat 23:25 is beautiful<br />
eskielover: gives hope but takes work&#8230;.lol<br />
eskielover: Woe to you&#8230;&#8230;.clean the outside of the cup &amp; dish but inside is full of greed &amp; self-indulgence<br />
eskielover: clean the inside &amp; then the outside will be clean<br />
SeptemberMorn: You&#8217;re talking about a couple people I know, Deb<br />
recluse1: that applies to everything in our lives&#8230;I like that<br />
eskielover: I know it&#8217;s amazing when I come to some of that inside stuff, the outside shapes up&#8230;..<br />
eskielover: yes, it does apply to everything<br />
eskielover: With the Spirit, we become free at last<br />
eskielover: our Goal:<br />
eskielover: 1) find genuine freedom<br />
eskielover: 2) freedom that only comes through a life filled with the Holy Spirit<br />
eskielover: It is that lie that displays the character traits called the fruit of the Spirit<br />
eskielover: (that&#8217;s where this is all heading to is that study)<br />
eskielover: 3) discover that the character of Jesus can be a reality in the life<br />
eskielover: if an EVERYDAY believer<br />
SeptemberMorn: Debbie may I interrupt?<br />
eskielover: sure<br />
SeptemberMorn: you typed &#8220;it is t hat lie&#8221; did you mean life?<br />
eskielover: I&#8217;m looking<br />
SeptemberMorn: under #2<br />
eskielover: yes, It&#8217;s that life<br />
SeptemberMorn: good! ok.<br />
eskielover: not a good typo there&#8230;oops<br />
SeptemberMorn: LOL I understand &#8220;typo&#8221;<br />
eskielover: not a Freudian slip by any means<br />
SeptemberMorn: LOL<br />
eskielover: 4) Understanding the fruit of the Spirit &amp; issues involved in living in the Spirit<br />
eskielover: 5)&#8230;the tough one<br />
SeptemberMorn: Ut Oh!<br />
eskielover: let Christ have access to those places inside us<br />
SeptemberMorn: Oh&#8230;<br />
eskielover: we have problems with &amp; need changing &amp; give him permission to come inside<br />
eskielover: 6)&#8230;.our key as Christians&#8230;..to resist Satan’s hard fight &amp; attempts to discourage us<br />
SeptemberMorn: THAT is the tough one for me.<br />
eskielover: These are all the challenges ahead<br />
recluse1: easy to read&#8230;harder to apply<br />
eskielover: When I went through this Bible study starting in Feb&#8230;.I was really at a place where this was needed<br />
recluse1: i am at that place myself right now. so this is an answered prayer for me<br />
SeptemberMorn: I feel I need it now. Too much of what you have said &#8230; IDK&#8230; rings a bell or something.<br />
recluse1: I thank God for bringing us all together for this!<br />
eskielover: I know for me&#8230;.this is wonderful because I didn&#8217;t get enough out of it he first time<br />
SeptemberMorn: He had a purpose when the SF got changed<br />
eskielover: I know that God has placed this here for a definite reason<br />
Court_Knee has left the room.<br />
recluse1: took me a while&#8230;but yes, i see that now<br />
SeptemberMorn: took me a while, too.<br />
eskielover: I think that also&#8230;&#8230;it seems that he works that way&#8230;&#8230;things change&#8230;.then he provides the seeds of ideas to make the changes he really wants<br />
SeptemberMorn: something (I wonder who??) kept nudging me onward, though.<br />
recluse1: Holy Spirit at work&#8230;&#8230;<br />
eskielover: the Spirit&#8230;..is a good nudger<br />
SeptemberMorn: through you, Recluse.<br />
recluse1: Awww<br />
eskielover: That is the beauty of the Spirit&#8230;.he knows all the players &amp; puts the pieces together<br />
SeptemberMorn: I had the same idea, but hadn&#8217;t done anything with it until you posted<br />
SeptemberMorn: Isn&#8217;t it wonderful??<br />
recluse1: yes, wonderful!<br />
SeptemberMorn: Deb, you had been sharing about this Bible study<br />
eskielover: Yes, it was tough because I was sharing then I couldn&#8217;t<br />
bebop is currently away.<br />
eskielover: I couldn&#8217;t keep in inside<br />
recluse1: but you shared enough to inspire us with it!<br />
SeptemberMorn: now we know why<br />
recluse1: Amen<br />
SeptemberMorn: that&#8217;s for sure!<br />
eskielover: But it wasn&#8217;t silenced thanks to you all<br />
SeptemberMorn: Thank God you couldn&#8217;t keep it inside. LOL<br />
recluse1: thank you for being open enough to be His vessel!<br />
SeptemberMorn: Do we have any prayer requests?<br />
SeptemberMorn: I do.<br />
eskielover: The timing was good because I didn&#8217;t know what was going on, so I was able to say<br />
eskielover: I think this is a good time for prayer requests.<br />
SeptemberMorn: God&#8217;s perfect timing!<br />
recluse1: YAY!<br />
SeptemberMorn: I&#8217;m going to be very open, okay?<br />
recluse1: ok<br />
eskielover: ok<br />
SeptemberMorn: Sky and I got into it pretty heavy when she came back from vacation to the point that I had to put her on ignore. You saw what happened tonight. I&#8217;m sure she feels that I kicked her out. I DID NOT! She must have gotten booted.<br />
SeptemberMorn: I think she needs this study and I think s he needs our prayers.<br />
recluse1: i will pray<br />
eskielover: I saw she was welcomed by 2 of us before she left&#8230;.don&#8217;t think she saw our welcome<br />
SeptemberMorn: One more request. My hubby needs our prayers, too. He&#8217;s too busy living life inside himself.<br />
eskielover: I will invite her back<br />
recluse1: got it sept<br />
eskielover: I too have a similar prayer request<br />
SeptemberMorn: ty, Debbie<br />
recluse1: ok<br />
SeptemberMorn: ok<br />
eskielover: about my husband<br />
eskielover: He has been living his life totally inside of himself &amp; needs to come to terms with allowing the Spirit into his life<br />
SeptemberMorn: understood<br />
recluse1: making a list..<br />
SeptemberMorn: we are married to similar men, Debbie<br />
SeptemberMorn: Recluse, I&#8217;m sending out this chat, Hon.<br />
recluse1: ok<br />
recluse1: i also have a request please..<br />
SeptemberMorn: ok<br />
eskielover: ok<br />
recluse1: i would like for you to pray for my family and I. We are in the midst of a great struggle spiritually and financially. please pray for us to find the answers we seek.<br />
SeptemberMorn: you&#8217;ve got it, Hon. HUGS<br />
eskielover: yes&#8230;you have my prayers<br />
recluse1: (((((((hugs to all))))))) this has been wonderful. thank you all for being here!<br />
SeptemberMorn:<br />
SeptemberMorn: thank God for us. Is that kosher? LOL<br />
eskielover: This has been wonderful&#8230;.if there are any suggestions I would love to hear&#8230;it&#8217;s hard doing bible study this way<br />
SeptemberMorn: thank God for this group. There!<br />
recluse1: i think you did wonderful eskie<br />
recluse1: i was wondering how this would work.<br />
SeptemberMorn: Eskie, you might ask Sky if she managed to do macros w hen she did her chats.<br />
eskielover: God is blessing us together&#8230;.we need each others support &amp; this is wonderful to have it here<br />
recluse1: but you did very well<br />
SeptemberMorn: Yes, you did!<br />
SeptemberMorn: but I understand how hard it is just from doing the prayer. LOL<br />
eskielover: I will ask her about that<br />
SeptemberMorn: Debbie, if you want to dismiss us with a blessing? I didn&#8217;t find it or get it done.<br />
recluse1: i will pm her also so she knows she is welcome here, ok.<br />
eskielover: I only got about 1/2 through what was for tonight<br />
eskielover: no we haven&#8217;t done that yet<br />
SeptemberMorn: yes, do, Recluse.<br />
SeptemberMorn: LOL I can imagine, Debbie.<br />
eskielover: we can close with the blessing &amp; then we can chat<br />
SeptemberMorn: As long as Sky doesn&#8217;t try to correct or argue with Debbie, she&#8217;ll be fine.<br />
SeptemberMorn: Ok<br />
recluse1: it will be fine<br />
SeptemberMorn: Debbie, if you will?<br />
eskielover: Sure:<br />
eskielover: The Lord Bless you &amp; keep you<br />
eskielover: The Lord Make his face to shine upon you &amp; give you peace<br />
eskielover: May we go in peace through this week<br />
SeptemberMorn: Amen<br />
eskielover: &amp; be blessed through out our daily lives<br />
eskielover: amen<br />
SeptemberMorn: thank you Debbie. //33<br />
recluse1: amen and amen</p>
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		<title>Comment on What would you like to talk about? by rapunzel</title>
		<link>http://rapunzel.psychcentral.net/2008/04/15/what-would-you-like-to-talk-about/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>rapunzel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any votes on what to call the group, regardless of where we put it?  I'm hoping to be open to all, so my votes is for something not necessarily Christian. One idea I had was "Together in Faith."  What other suggestions do any of you have?

Let's talk a little about pros and cons for where to set up the group.  With Yahoo groups it's easy to include a lot of people and allow them to post new threads or reply easily.  Subscribers can get messages by email or read them at Yahoo if they go there and sign in.  I've been involved with several yahoo groups, but haven't set one up myself.  I understand that some things are a pain in the neck about them.  They do sell subscriber's email addresses to spammers.  They also consider whoever starts a group to be the owner of that group, and nobody else can make major changes.  One Yahoo group I'm on, the "owner" died.  She had left a moderator, and the group is still running, but there is no way to move it someplace else, elect a new administrator, etc.  (and the group is for a guild and has the guild's name, which nobody wants to abandon).

I'm leaning, myself, towards a multi-author blog, like this one, except not belonging to one person.  I was asked about having pages for different denominations.  If authors of threads just assign a category to each post, then although on the main page posts will be displayed chronologically, you can also click on any category and see only those posts.  You can assign multiple categories to a post, so it will show up on each of those pages.  Then you can read what you want to read.  Try it here and see how that works.  I can go ahead and set up a multi-author blog and you guys can tell me what you think.  To add authors, I need an email address.  And I'm not sure the name can be changed after setting it up.

One more thing: unless someone changed a setting for me, it appears that once I've approved a comment from someone, they can comment and it shows up immediately.  So waiting for approval may not be as much of an issue as I thought.

Rap</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any votes on what to call the group, regardless of where we put it?  I&#8217;m hoping to be open to all, so my votes is for something not necessarily Christian. One idea I had was &#8220;Together in Faith.&#8221;  What other suggestions do any of you have?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s talk a little about pros and cons for where to set up the group.  With Yahoo groups it&#8217;s easy to include a lot of people and allow them to post new threads or reply easily.  Subscribers can get messages by email or read them at Yahoo if they go there and sign in.  I&#8217;ve been involved with several yahoo groups, but haven&#8217;t set one up myself.  I understand that some things are a pain in the neck about them.  They do sell subscriber&#8217;s email addresses to spammers.  They also consider whoever starts a group to be the owner of that group, and nobody else can make major changes.  One Yahoo group I&#8217;m on, the &#8220;owner&#8221; died.  She had left a moderator, and the group is still running, but there is no way to move it someplace else, elect a new administrator, etc.  (and the group is for a guild and has the guild&#8217;s name, which nobody wants to abandon).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m leaning, myself, towards a multi-author blog, like this one, except not belonging to one person.  I was asked about having pages for different denominations.  If authors of threads just assign a category to each post, then although on the main page posts will be displayed chronologically, you can also click on any category and see only those posts.  You can assign multiple categories to a post, so it will show up on each of those pages.  Then you can read what you want to read.  Try it here and see how that works.  I can go ahead and set up a multi-author blog and you guys can tell me what you think.  To add authors, I need an email address.  And I&#8217;m not sure the name can be changed after setting it up.</p>
<p>One more thing: unless someone changed a setting for me, it appears that once I&#8217;ve approved a comment from someone, they can comment and it shows up immediately.  So waiting for approval may not be as much of an issue as I thought.</p>
<p>Rap</p>
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		<title>Comment on What would you like to talk about? by recluse1</title>
		<link>http://rapunzel.psychcentral.net/2008/04/15/what-would-you-like-to-talk-about/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>recluse1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 08:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be more than happy to venture with you guys/gals with a yahoo group.  I am eager to do all I can, anywhere I can!  I realize some can't chat on the other site so I think it would be nice to have another place where they could participate as well.

If this is arranged, please let me know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be more than happy to venture with you guys/gals with a yahoo group.  I am eager to do all I can, anywhere I can!  I realize some can&#8217;t chat on the other site so I think it would be nice to have another place where they could participate as well.</p>
<p>If this is arranged, please let me know.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Let&#8217;s talk about invalidating environments, shall we? by Meg Kroeplin</title>
		<link>http://rapunzel.psychcentral.net/2008/04/14/lets-talk-about-invalidating-environments-shall-we/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>Meg Kroeplin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a metaphor, an invalidating environment is powerful.  To mirror and support a child's real experiences is essential, with out even considering mental illness.  I've been reading Pema Chodron says "If we just try to get rid of negative feelings, we don't realize that those feelings are our wisdom."  How do we fill children's lives with many people, some who can't hear them, and more who can?  What can we do to move the walls of separation so we can have more love?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a metaphor, an invalidating environment is powerful.  To mirror and support a child&#8217;s real experiences is essential, with out even considering mental illness.  I&#8217;ve been reading Pema Chodron says &#8220;If we just try to get rid of negative feelings, we don&#8217;t realize that those feelings are our wisdom.&#8221;  How do we fill children&#8217;s lives with many people, some who can&#8217;t hear them, and more who can?  What can we do to move the walls of separation so we can have more love?</p>
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